What does real leadership look like when you don’t have the title yet?

In this episode of One Sharp Sword, I sit down with Ryan George, Chief Marketing Officer at Docupace, to talk about ambition, culture, setbacks, and leading people with intention.

Ryan didn’t rise through marketing by positional authority. He led first through influence — before he ever had the title.

We explore:

• How to lead before you’re officially “the leader”
• The wake-up call of a brutal 360 review — and what to do with hard feedback
• Why culture is built on support, not “gotcha” moments
• The difference between managing performance and managing people
• Why your job as a leader is to prepare people for their next role — even if that means losing them

Ryan shares openly about being laid off, facing an identity crisis, and realizing that the bumps are the growth.

Three powerful leadership takeaways:

1. Choose the right people to work for — culture trickles down.
2. Growth rarely feels smooth — lean into the discomfort.
3. People have lives beyond work — lead with understanding, not punishment.

If you care about culture, influence, and lifting as you lead, this conversation delivers.

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Ryan George's LinkedIn page: linkedin.com/in/rageorge